Abstract of Ralph David MILLER, 2011
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Identifier: H00850002
Abstract
RALPH DAVID MILLER
Interviewer: Avis McDonald Abstracter: Jean Hawkes
TRACK 1
00:00 (there is no introduction, interviewer i.d., or recording agreement details)
01:14 RALPH DAVID MILLER born in 1935 in St Kilda, DUNEDIN
02:02 Father: DAVID THOMAS MILLER born 21 July 1900 – Started work early in The Depression – Rolling Mills at BURNSIDE, DUNEDIN – To INVERCARGILL Branch of IRON & STEEL COMPANY – Died October 1983 Mother: CASCENA MABEL BENFELL born 9 November 1909 died March/April 1990 (Note: Birth corrected to 11 October 1908)
Siblings: ELAINE MARGARET MILLER born 30 March 1940 – JANICE KATHLEEN MILLER born 2 January 1943 – Both married brothers with surname THOMAS
04:34 [EDUCATION]: St CLARE PRIMARY SCHOOL (Dunedin) – SOUTH SCHOOL (Invercargill) – TWEEDSMUIR INTERMEDIATE – SOUTHLAND BOYS' HIGH SCHOOL
05:06 P.E. (Physical Education) favourite subject – Enjoyed Geography – History – English – To lesser degree Science and much lesser degree Mathematics
05:50 [EMPLOYMENT]: 35 years FORESTRY SERVICE – Became Chief Draftsman SOUTHLAND CONSERVANCY – Explained TUATAPERE – TAPANUI – DUNEDIN – MOUNT COOK – Mentioned
06:44 Long held interest in sports involving running, jumping, catching balls Ability to run – Much involvement Professional sport – Mentioned
08:54 [WIFE]: NOLA MAVIS HODGKINSON born 16 September 1937 – Married 10 September 1960 Occupation – Shorthand typist – New Zealand Champion for her year PUBLIC TRUST OFFICE – Mentioned Seconded to FOREST SERVICE
10:05 [OWN CHILDREN]: PAUL DAVID MILLER born 21 January 1966 – BARBARA JANE MILLER born 19 July 1968
10:56 Start of involvement with CLIMBING about 1950 while at High School...
11:35 … Lot of reading – Decision made 'Wanderer' as a child – Described CONCORD (Dunedin) – Mentioned
12:33 Move to central DUNEDIN – Father's promotion St CLARE – GOLF COURSE – Mentioned
13:31 Sisters never involved – Younger than self
13:50 Inspired by JOCK BRAITHWAITE (Geography teacher at Boys' High School) – Described BILL GORDON – Mentioned....
15:00 End of Track 1
TRACK 2
00:00 … Self only one present for meeting – Possible explanation why School had a number of mountaineering books and alpine journals
00:47 First official climb – REMARKABLES (JARDINE'S HOMESTEAD) – Described BILL GORDON – PAT SHEEHAN – GEORGE PEARCE – Mentioned LAKE ALTA – EAST RIDGE – Mentioned
03:49 Descent from main peak – Approach to two other peaks – Explained Ignorance of rope techniques – Mentioned
04:57 Relieved after first climb – Physical challenge – Mental challenge
05:47 Realised in later years that 'Body is a conveyance for the mind'
06:01 Reaction of parents to mountain climbing – Explained
06:57 Friends mostly puzzled (about mountaineering) – Possible conflict with other sports BILL GORDON – Mentioned
07:27 Climbing in soft snow – Described Lot of climbing done at night – Taking advantage of frozen snow Problems when snow 'runs off'
08:14 Costs involved – Rationale of Tramping Clubs was to save money – Explained 08:46 Some friends bought cars – Model A Ford – Group shared expenses Mechanically good – Tyres a lot of trouble Trip to and from HOMER TUNNEL had 13 punctures Road condition – Described
10:29 160 miles from Invercargill to Homer Tunnel – About 4 hours travel (without punctures)
10:55 Foot traffic access to HOMER TUNNEL in 1952-1953
11:15 Permission granted by Invercargill Office of MINISTRY of WORKS to use tunnel Foreman's reaction to Permission Slip – Described Ride on gravel truck – Own first time through the tunnel – 1954 MOUNT SHEERDOWN – QUEEN'S VISIT – Mentioned
12:40 Most climbs at weekends Planning for climbs – Outlined
13:14 Fitness – Continued involvement with sports Climbers perverse sense of lack of fitness AUSTIN BROOKES from WINTON trained at nights – Actions described Played with All Blacks – Explained
14:50 Reasons for climbing given
15:00 End of Track 2
TRACK 3
00:00 Many virgin peaks and ridges explored – Adventures results of bad planning Good organising should go smoothly 01:16 Always challenges on the horizon – Everyone needs a learning period
02:05 Absolute trust in companions – Self very fortunate
02:58 BILL GORDON – RON (competent musterer) – First meeting LUMSDEN – Mentioned
04:35 Anchoring of belaying ropes – Today's mountaineering techniques much safer Ropes can be means of collective disaster – Explained
05:37 Read many overseas publications – Experimenting – Improved skills and knowledge
06:13 Types of ropes used – Described BILL – Italian Hemp rope – Mentioned
08:59 Equipment revolution has occurred – Described REMARKABLES – Japara parka (waxed cotton fabric) – 'Clunkers' (nailed boots) – Mentioned
10:17 Many peaks climbed more than once by self – Reasons given
11:10 GEORGE MOIR – LLOYD WARBURTON – COLIN LEE – Dr LINDSAY STEWART – JIM McFARLANE Inspiration to self and others – Self climbed peaks unknown to these people GEORGE skiied at CORONET PEAK aged 80 plus Dr STAN MULVANY – TIBET – Mentioned
13:07 Own children exposed to mountaineering – Little interest shown
14:18 Part of NOLA's (wife's) test for suitability – MOUNT HAMILTON (near MOSSBURN) – Taken to HOMER Tests for other climbers' girlfriends....
15:00 End of Track 3
TRACK 4
00:00 … NOLA'S reaction to 'test run' – Described Relationship survived.
00:35 'EARLY PEAKS' (book) – Mentioned Never climbed with female and self as a 'party' In later years BEV NOBLE involved – Attributes outlined
01:51 Challenges now much less physical
02:28 Encounters with avalanches LINDA GLACIER, MOUNT COOK – Mentioned
03:12 Reasons for climbing at night – Descent during daytime Long rest period involved
05:05 In early years mostly summer activity – Standards improved – Climbing all year Ice climbing – Explained
06:17 First to climb TALBOT EAST RIDGE – Described BILL BLEE – Mentioned
08:30 Ropes carried – Self led for most of climb
08:46 Locally little competition among small groups – Number in group climbs Trampers (from club) other activities
09:50 First new route in 1954 Climbs in earlier days recorded in Alpine Journal – Canterbury Mountaineering Journal and others Situation different now – Explained
10:56 Planning and ascent of TALBOT EAST RIDGE – Described Most trouble occurs on descent – Similar situation with skiing Club hut at HOMER – Mentioned
13:15 Self had done dozens of other ascents Reasons to climb GEORGE MALLORY of MOUNT EVEREST – Mentioned
14:12 Still in non-technical when at EAST RIDGE – Explained Equipment – Described... 15:00 End of Track 4
TRACK 5
00:00 … Footwear (choice) – Explained EAST RIDGE of MOUNT TALBOT – Mentioned
01:41 Minimal extra equipment for overnight climbs – Described Bivouac stops – Mentioned
02:47 Hypothermia – Caving trip at DOUBTFUL SOUND – Described KEN HAMILTON – HAROLD JACOBS – AUSTIN BROOKES – BILL BLACK – JACK MORRELL – Mentioned
05:36 JACK affected by hypothermia – Described Terrain – Described
07:13 JACK didn't climb much with self BEV NOBLE – AUSTIN BROOKES – Mentioned Recovery from hypothermia – Described
08:03 Rapid weather change on MOUNT COOK – Described MOUNT TASMAN – Mentioned Overseas climbers often have false security
09:12 Climb on EAST RIDGE – NOTCH ROUTE – CROSS CUT PEAK – Self aged about 17 years BILL GORDON – Mentioned Invitation to climb – Attributes of companions 11:10 Own first ascent – MOUNT SHEERDOWN
11:25 High strike rate for gaining new routes – about 90% Favourable conditions needed in early days – Group well known for doing well Recent times go in less perfect conditions Feelings of older climbers – Explained
12:56 Person suggested to parents that self had fallen into bad company – Explained Teenage attitudes
13:40 Thoughts on unsuccessful climbs and other actions Possible climbs shared with group members – Secret projects DUNEDIN – CANTERBURY – Mentioned
15:00 End of Track 5
TRACK 6
00:00 Mountaineering Headquarters in CHRISTCHURCH MOUNT COOK – Mentioned Secret projects in MOUNT COOK area
01:05 Planning for climbs – Explained
02:28 Snow and ice climbs MOUNT COOK area – Some rock routes Rock and snow in MILFORD area BALL HUT – TASMAN GLACIER – HERMITAGE – Mentioned
04:21 MOUNT CHRISTINA – Epic – Historical record Three climbs by self – Described
05:27 Self and BILL climbed SOUTH WEST FACE of MOUNT CHRISTINA – Described DEL RYAN (teacher) – Mentioned
07:24 Memories of the climb and the chasm – BILL'S ability to sleep when/where ever DEL RYAN – BILL GORDON – Mentioned
08:07 Characteristics of BILL GORDON – Described
09:06 JOCK BRAITHWAITE – Mentioned
09:11 Climb of NORTH RIDGE – Explained Studied information in ALPINE JOURNALS for inspiration
09:55 Christmas time get together at HOMER NOLA climbed MOUNT BARRIER GRAHAM McCALLUM from WELLINGTON – Climbing partner Self eventually went to ANTARCTICA with GRAHAM
10:50 Routes on MOUNT CHRISTINA are complex – Described
11:44 Need for knowledge of surroundings HOMER TUNNEL area – Mentioned
12:25 Thrill on climbs new to self – Many peaks climbed more than once
13:12 NORTH RIDGE – No special moments
13:30 More climbers died during WW1 than in WW2 Early climbers able to penetrate up the valleys of MILFORD despite lack of road access
14:35 In present times possible to drive to the foot of many climbs
14:38 Vandalism – Not in hay-day – Much in present times
14:59 Problems with Keas...
TRACK 7
00:00 Behaviour of KEAS – Described
00:55 Self still climbs – Climbers owe debt to their families – Explained Skiing – Mentioned
02:50 BEACONS – Self has full range of safety gear for skiing and climbing Activation of beacon for skiing – Explained Locator beacons for mountains – Can be picked up by satellite
04:21 Notification of climbing intentions – Explained Delays usually from weather conditions
06:07 Self involved with SEARCH and RESCUE of other people – Not for self
06:27 BILL BLACK – No longer flying – Involved in SEARCH and RESCUE Helicopter pilots – Mentioned Self often flew with BILL in course of own work for photography or samples
07:34 Trip into EGLINTON VALLEY with BILL – Described Beech tree epidemic NOLA – Mentioned
09:06 Thanks for interview – Club questions answered
10:00 End of Track 7
Interviewer: Avis McDonald Abstracter: Jean Hawkes
TRACK 1
00:00 (there is no introduction, interviewer i.d., or recording agreement details)
01:14 RALPH DAVID MILLER born in 1935 in St Kilda, DUNEDIN
02:02 Father: DAVID THOMAS MILLER born 21 July 1900 – Started work early in The Depression – Rolling Mills at BURNSIDE, DUNEDIN – To INVERCARGILL Branch of IRON & STEEL COMPANY – Died October 1983 Mother: CASCENA MABEL BENFELL born 9 November 1909 died March/April 1990 (Note: Birth corrected to 11 October 1908)
Siblings: ELAINE MARGARET MILLER born 30 March 1940 – JANICE KATHLEEN MILLER born 2 January 1943 – Both married brothers with surname THOMAS
04:34 [EDUCATION]: St CLARE PRIMARY SCHOOL (Dunedin) – SOUTH SCHOOL (Invercargill) – TWEEDSMUIR INTERMEDIATE – SOUTHLAND BOYS' HIGH SCHOOL
05:06 P.E. (Physical Education) favourite subject – Enjoyed Geography – History – English – To lesser degree Science and much lesser degree Mathematics
05:50 [EMPLOYMENT]: 35 years FORESTRY SERVICE – Became Chief Draftsman SOUTHLAND CONSERVANCY – Explained TUATAPERE – TAPANUI – DUNEDIN – MOUNT COOK – Mentioned
06:44 Long held interest in sports involving running, jumping, catching balls Ability to run – Much involvement Professional sport – Mentioned
08:54 [WIFE]: NOLA MAVIS HODGKINSON born 16 September 1937 – Married 10 September 1960 Occupation – Shorthand typist – New Zealand Champion for her year PUBLIC TRUST OFFICE – Mentioned Seconded to FOREST SERVICE
10:05 [OWN CHILDREN]: PAUL DAVID MILLER born 21 January 1966 – BARBARA JANE MILLER born 19 July 1968
10:56 Start of involvement with CLIMBING about 1950 while at High School...
11:35 … Lot of reading – Decision made 'Wanderer' as a child – Described CONCORD (Dunedin) – Mentioned
12:33 Move to central DUNEDIN – Father's promotion St CLARE – GOLF COURSE – Mentioned
13:31 Sisters never involved – Younger than self
13:50 Inspired by JOCK BRAITHWAITE (Geography teacher at Boys' High School) – Described BILL GORDON – Mentioned....
15:00 End of Track 1
TRACK 2
00:00 … Self only one present for meeting – Possible explanation why School had a number of mountaineering books and alpine journals
00:47 First official climb – REMARKABLES (JARDINE'S HOMESTEAD) – Described BILL GORDON – PAT SHEEHAN – GEORGE PEARCE – Mentioned LAKE ALTA – EAST RIDGE – Mentioned
03:49 Descent from main peak – Approach to two other peaks – Explained Ignorance of rope techniques – Mentioned
04:57 Relieved after first climb – Physical challenge – Mental challenge
05:47 Realised in later years that 'Body is a conveyance for the mind'
06:01 Reaction of parents to mountain climbing – Explained
06:57 Friends mostly puzzled (about mountaineering) – Possible conflict with other sports BILL GORDON – Mentioned
07:27 Climbing in soft snow – Described Lot of climbing done at night – Taking advantage of frozen snow Problems when snow 'runs off'
08:14 Costs involved – Rationale of Tramping Clubs was to save money – Explained 08:46 Some friends bought cars – Model A Ford – Group shared expenses Mechanically good – Tyres a lot of trouble Trip to and from HOMER TUNNEL had 13 punctures Road condition – Described
10:29 160 miles from Invercargill to Homer Tunnel – About 4 hours travel (without punctures)
10:55 Foot traffic access to HOMER TUNNEL in 1952-1953
11:15 Permission granted by Invercargill Office of MINISTRY of WORKS to use tunnel Foreman's reaction to Permission Slip – Described Ride on gravel truck – Own first time through the tunnel – 1954 MOUNT SHEERDOWN – QUEEN'S VISIT – Mentioned
12:40 Most climbs at weekends Planning for climbs – Outlined
13:14 Fitness – Continued involvement with sports Climbers perverse sense of lack of fitness AUSTIN BROOKES from WINTON trained at nights – Actions described Played with All Blacks – Explained
14:50 Reasons for climbing given
15:00 End of Track 2
TRACK 3
00:00 Many virgin peaks and ridges explored – Adventures results of bad planning Good organising should go smoothly 01:16 Always challenges on the horizon – Everyone needs a learning period
02:05 Absolute trust in companions – Self very fortunate
02:58 BILL GORDON – RON (competent musterer) – First meeting LUMSDEN – Mentioned
04:35 Anchoring of belaying ropes – Today's mountaineering techniques much safer Ropes can be means of collective disaster – Explained
05:37 Read many overseas publications – Experimenting – Improved skills and knowledge
06:13 Types of ropes used – Described BILL – Italian Hemp rope – Mentioned
08:59 Equipment revolution has occurred – Described REMARKABLES – Japara parka (waxed cotton fabric) – 'Clunkers' (nailed boots) – Mentioned
10:17 Many peaks climbed more than once by self – Reasons given
11:10 GEORGE MOIR – LLOYD WARBURTON – COLIN LEE – Dr LINDSAY STEWART – JIM McFARLANE Inspiration to self and others – Self climbed peaks unknown to these people GEORGE skiied at CORONET PEAK aged 80 plus Dr STAN MULVANY – TIBET – Mentioned
13:07 Own children exposed to mountaineering – Little interest shown
14:18 Part of NOLA's (wife's) test for suitability – MOUNT HAMILTON (near MOSSBURN) – Taken to HOMER Tests for other climbers' girlfriends....
15:00 End of Track 3
TRACK 4
00:00 … NOLA'S reaction to 'test run' – Described Relationship survived.
00:35 'EARLY PEAKS' (book) – Mentioned Never climbed with female and self as a 'party' In later years BEV NOBLE involved – Attributes outlined
01:51 Challenges now much less physical
02:28 Encounters with avalanches LINDA GLACIER, MOUNT COOK – Mentioned
03:12 Reasons for climbing at night – Descent during daytime Long rest period involved
05:05 In early years mostly summer activity – Standards improved – Climbing all year Ice climbing – Explained
06:17 First to climb TALBOT EAST RIDGE – Described BILL BLEE – Mentioned
08:30 Ropes carried – Self led for most of climb
08:46 Locally little competition among small groups – Number in group climbs Trampers (from club) other activities
09:50 First new route in 1954 Climbs in earlier days recorded in Alpine Journal – Canterbury Mountaineering Journal and others Situation different now – Explained
10:56 Planning and ascent of TALBOT EAST RIDGE – Described Most trouble occurs on descent – Similar situation with skiing Club hut at HOMER – Mentioned
13:15 Self had done dozens of other ascents Reasons to climb GEORGE MALLORY of MOUNT EVEREST – Mentioned
14:12 Still in non-technical when at EAST RIDGE – Explained Equipment – Described... 15:00 End of Track 4
TRACK 5
00:00 … Footwear (choice) – Explained EAST RIDGE of MOUNT TALBOT – Mentioned
01:41 Minimal extra equipment for overnight climbs – Described Bivouac stops – Mentioned
02:47 Hypothermia – Caving trip at DOUBTFUL SOUND – Described KEN HAMILTON – HAROLD JACOBS – AUSTIN BROOKES – BILL BLACK – JACK MORRELL – Mentioned
05:36 JACK affected by hypothermia – Described Terrain – Described
07:13 JACK didn't climb much with self BEV NOBLE – AUSTIN BROOKES – Mentioned Recovery from hypothermia – Described
08:03 Rapid weather change on MOUNT COOK – Described MOUNT TASMAN – Mentioned Overseas climbers often have false security
09:12 Climb on EAST RIDGE – NOTCH ROUTE – CROSS CUT PEAK – Self aged about 17 years BILL GORDON – Mentioned Invitation to climb – Attributes of companions 11:10 Own first ascent – MOUNT SHEERDOWN
11:25 High strike rate for gaining new routes – about 90% Favourable conditions needed in early days – Group well known for doing well Recent times go in less perfect conditions Feelings of older climbers – Explained
12:56 Person suggested to parents that self had fallen into bad company – Explained Teenage attitudes
13:40 Thoughts on unsuccessful climbs and other actions Possible climbs shared with group members – Secret projects DUNEDIN – CANTERBURY – Mentioned
15:00 End of Track 5
TRACK 6
00:00 Mountaineering Headquarters in CHRISTCHURCH MOUNT COOK – Mentioned Secret projects in MOUNT COOK area
01:05 Planning for climbs – Explained
02:28 Snow and ice climbs MOUNT COOK area – Some rock routes Rock and snow in MILFORD area BALL HUT – TASMAN GLACIER – HERMITAGE – Mentioned
04:21 MOUNT CHRISTINA – Epic – Historical record Three climbs by self – Described
05:27 Self and BILL climbed SOUTH WEST FACE of MOUNT CHRISTINA – Described DEL RYAN (teacher) – Mentioned
07:24 Memories of the climb and the chasm – BILL'S ability to sleep when/where ever DEL RYAN – BILL GORDON – Mentioned
08:07 Characteristics of BILL GORDON – Described
09:06 JOCK BRAITHWAITE – Mentioned
09:11 Climb of NORTH RIDGE – Explained Studied information in ALPINE JOURNALS for inspiration
09:55 Christmas time get together at HOMER NOLA climbed MOUNT BARRIER GRAHAM McCALLUM from WELLINGTON – Climbing partner Self eventually went to ANTARCTICA with GRAHAM
10:50 Routes on MOUNT CHRISTINA are complex – Described
11:44 Need for knowledge of surroundings HOMER TUNNEL area – Mentioned
12:25 Thrill on climbs new to self – Many peaks climbed more than once
13:12 NORTH RIDGE – No special moments
13:30 More climbers died during WW1 than in WW2 Early climbers able to penetrate up the valleys of MILFORD despite lack of road access
14:35 In present times possible to drive to the foot of many climbs
14:38 Vandalism – Not in hay-day – Much in present times
14:59 Problems with Keas...
TRACK 7
00:00 Behaviour of KEAS – Described
00:55 Self still climbs – Climbers owe debt to their families – Explained Skiing – Mentioned
02:50 BEACONS – Self has full range of safety gear for skiing and climbing Activation of beacon for skiing – Explained Locator beacons for mountains – Can be picked up by satellite
04:21 Notification of climbing intentions – Explained Delays usually from weather conditions
06:07 Self involved with SEARCH and RESCUE of other people – Not for self
06:27 BILL BLACK – No longer flying – Involved in SEARCH and RESCUE Helicopter pilots – Mentioned Self often flew with BILL in course of own work for photography or samples
07:34 Trip into EGLINTON VALLEY with BILL – Described Beech tree epidemic NOLA – Mentioned
09:06 Thanks for interview – Club questions answered
10:00 End of Track 7
Dates
- 2011
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